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doublev
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Posted - 08/01/2009 :  10:04:29  Show Profile  Email Poster Send doublev a Private Message  Reply with Quote
found this guy talking about non fine tuning floyds. .sounds good.
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I think it got popular because it stayed in tune.

Regarding the fine tuners, I have a Brad Gillis sig strat that I put an OLD floyd on - one of the non fine tuning bridges. Once you get used to setting up one of those, you almost never use the fine tuners on the sissy floyds.

Oh, and for guys who like to do trem warbles - the non fine tuner floyds are insane. I can bang my fist on the face of the gillis strat and it sounds like a cat being strangled.

Pete



doublev
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Posted - 08/01/2009 :  10:05:51  Show Profile  Email Poster Send doublev a Private Message  Reply with Quote
are schaller one of the better floyd makers?
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doublev
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Posted - 08/01/2009 :  10:16:10  Show Profile  Email Poster Send doublev a Private Message  Reply with Quote
are these in the same league as floyds? http://schaller-guitarparts.de/hp135041/Non-finetuning-Tremolo-2000.htm?ITServ=C7fbba435X122d6767b45XY6134
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doublev
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Posted - 08/01/2009 :  10:27:19  Show Profile  Email Poster Send doublev a Private Message  Reply with Quote
here is the full blog.. http://www.rig-talk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=47301&p=548257

intersting that the guy says a shorter block will be closer to the sound of the non fine tuner. Brad Gillis said he likes the non fine tuner floyd as he can easily use it without the use of the bar???
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QuentinAaron
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Posted - 08/01/2009 :  17:00:12  Show Profile  Email Poster Send QuentinAaron a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Rig Talk is honestly in my opinion one of the best boards for gear talk. I never post but I do read the board. Some of the guys on these boards are jerks, they try to treat some people like they are stupid because the are new to something. Theres a good balance of old, and new school. Floyd rose just came out with a low profile trem as well. I only know about Schallers tuners. They used to be the best. There are better tuners on the market now. I've always been curious if the Schaller floyd was any better the original.

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doublev
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Posted - 08/01/2009 :  18:07:35  Show Profile  Email Poster Send doublev a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was most at home with the kahler spyder floyd that was standard with ritzs. I also had a kahler pro floyd. Jackson floyd. But most I had made with the spyder. I think the non fine tuning floyd would he great.
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ankh
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Posted - 08/02/2009 :  01:03:49  Show Profile  Email Poster Send ankh a Private Message  Reply with Quote


pic of the original no fine tuners Floyd................
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Slayer
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Posted - 08/02/2009 :  16:12:32  Show Profile Send Slayer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dino,
Most Spyders that I have tried were stiff and lacked the range up and down that is possible with a Floyd Rose. I will stress that most of the ones that I have tried were factory installed on Fender HM Strats. Perhaps they performed better on the Ritz's and I would assume few of us have ever actually played a Ritz. As a matter of fact the only people that I know who own a Ritz are you, Full Shred and Michael Angelo Batio.

K
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doublev
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Posted - 08/02/2009 :  16:31:35  Show Profile  Email Poster Send doublev a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ha, yes the spyder was a little stiff on most of my ritz, got used to it however. The Kahler Pro wasn't as stiff if i remember.

Slayer what would you say would be the closet trem to Vinnie's that can be bought new? Quentin mentioned the low profile ones, I know schaeler make one.

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doublev
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Posted - 08/02/2009 :  16:56:01  Show Profile  Email Poster Send doublev a Private Message  Reply with Quote
is this a non fine tuning floyd? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9nYJaxk1do&feature=related
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TomPerverteau
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Posted - 08/04/2009 :  11:21:31  Show Profile Send TomPerverteau a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have a non-fine-tuner Original Floyd, one of the first ones ever.

I think the Gotoh Floyds are the best new ones. Hard to find.

Any of the Ibanez that aren't TRS are very good, too. The Schaller may be the same thing as an OFR, as it is suspected that they are making the real ones for Floyd.
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doublev
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Posted - 08/04/2009 :  13:07:15  Show Profile  Email Poster Send doublev a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How is the non fine tuning one. Any advantages?
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TomPerverteau
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Posted - 08/04/2009 :  14:49:16  Show Profile Send TomPerverteau a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't see any advantage the way I play. I have to monitor my tuner as I clamp the nut because the tuning always changes during the clamping. After some time using it, you get to know where to tune so that when you clamp the nut the guitar comes into tune! And of course you have to un-clamp to re-tune. Other than that royal pain in the butt it works great.

It's cool to have because they are rare & collectable now. The real reason I have this one is because I was one of the first guys in Portland to get a Floyd, and they didn't have fine tuners on them yet.
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sandimas
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Posted - 08/04/2009 :  16:27:20  Show Profile  Email Poster Send sandimas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have a bunch of non fine tuning Floyds in my stash, and a Black Fernandes one on my Rhoads, which is the same bridge as VV used (these Fernandes FRT3 models are more like the hand made prototypes than the later Schaller ones which only went out on cheaper Kramer guitars). I posted on this before, and I prefer the non fine tuner because:
- fewer moving parts, less to dampen string vibration
- the prototypes and the FRT3 have bigger blocks, and a slightly meatier sound
- the whaletail fine tuning section gets in the way of the bridge pickup knob on the Rhoads
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doublev
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Posted - 08/05/2009 :  01:43:24  Show Profile  Email Poster Send doublev a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So vinnie didn't use the kramer one? He used a fernandes licensed floyd? Interesting.
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TomPerverteau
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Posted - 08/05/2009 :  10:40:29  Show Profile Send TomPerverteau a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I definately agree with SanDimas that the old Floyds are of very high quality. They sound killer and don't wear out.
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QuentinAaron
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Posted - 09/29/2009 :  06:03:27  Show Profile  Email Poster Send QuentinAaron a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://forum.metroamp.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=17325&p=171392&hilit=vinnie+vincent#p171392

I found this on metro amps. A guy that worked at Charvel stated that Vinnie liked the old non fine tuner floyd with brass blocks.

quentin aaron
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doublev
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Posted - 09/29/2009 :  15:20:32  Show Profile  Email Poster Send doublev a Private Message  Reply with Quote
very interesting. thanks quentin
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shramiac
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Posted - 10/29/2009 :  17:20:59  Show Profile Send shramiac a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There is one on ebay now if anyone is interested. Was $50, is German made and looked in good condition....bargin!
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